In the great automotive Venn Diagram, BMW and Porsche don’t tend to have a lot of commonality in their middle section. Occasionally they stand-toe-to-toe conceptually but, even then, so disparate are the German giants’ personalities and audiences that, like two heavyweight champs holding different belts and never quite setting up that unification fight, they don’t really slug it out.
There is one notable exception, though, and it’s a battle that has been raging for 50 years and counting. It’s not as if the CSL and RS were strict rivals in competition, but the homologation road versions were a different matter altogether. And, I would posit, two of the greatest road cars turned racers turned road cars that the world has ever seen.
These are cars about which every single true enthusiast knows (and readily shares) some element of pub trivia, just as they do with the GT40’s height-name confluence or the fact that Enzo Ferrari waxed lyrical about the beauty of the E-type. With our cover stars it will probably be the fact that, in its home nation, you had to buy your Batmobile with the very thing that made it a Batmobile detached and in the boot. Or they might reel off the siren call names for the vibrant hues on the Porsche colour chart. That such should-be-obscurities are so widely known is as verifiable a sign of legendary status as I can think of.
Nece design — but very bad tech - I hope that I am right because Maserati doesn't underrate horsepower like Audi, BMW or Mercedes does. The Trofeo leans more middle-ground than high-ground, despite being marketed as the latter. That means its performance is more closely comparable to the Audi S6, BMW M550i, and Mercedes-AMG E53; although one could argue that in top speed it beats the RS6/M5/E63 type of cars
F90 new M5. Will be available from September. Despite it's AWD it's 15 kg lighter than the previous generation. Power is 600 PS at 5600-6700 rpm, torque is 750 Nm at 1800-5600 rpm. It gets the ZF's popular 8 speed automatic instead of BMW's own 7 speed dual-clutch automatic. It's ironic that «simple» automatic gearboxes have developed so much in the last few years that many sport cars uses them instead of dual-clutch automatics. BMW says the biggest improvement is the AWD system and the new gearbox, they make the biggest part of being faster than the previous generation, not the more powerful engine. Top speed is 305 kph, 0-100 kph: 3,4 s.
You've gone made over there in Europe, and more so in UK. I'm so glad that I live in Australia, where we can buy diesel & petrol cars for the foreseeable future, in fact I'm thinking of updating my diesel Jeep to another diesel, perhaps a Mitsubishi Pajero (Shogun to you). Our government has fallen for the world's greatest hoax (that mankind is causing changes in the climate, when it has always changed, and we emit only 3% of all CO2), but we haven't gone to this electric car imbecility as yet. Except for the few who live close in to the city, and in a house, (you can't charge your car if you live in a flat) and never go very far, we need greatly longer ranges as you can drive in the outback here, and it can be an hour between towns, and so it could take 1/2 hour to charge tor EV every 300 or so km. To go between Sydney and Melbourne, (not the outback) about 850 km, you can drive it in a day with little trouble in a diesel/petrol can. In my Jeep I can do it without stopping. My tank is 78 litres, so at 8.5l/100km I need 72 litres. In an EV it would take 3 days — ridiculous!
James Elliott → 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS 2.7 ‘Touring’ vs. 1973 BMW 3.0 CSL ‘Batmobile’ E9 3 years ago
Two definitions of legendary status
In the great automotive Venn Diagram, BMW and Porsche don’t tend to have a lot of commonality in their middle section. Occasionally they stand-toe-to-toe conceptually but, even then, so disparate are the German giants’ personalities and audiences that, like two heavyweight champs holding different belts and never quite setting up that unification fight, they don’t really slug it out.
There is one notable exception, though, and it’s a battle that has been raging for 50 years and counting. It’s not as if the CSL and RS were strict rivals in competition, but the homologation road versions were a different matter altogether. And, I would posit, two of the greatest road cars turned racers turned road cars that the world has ever seen.
These are cars about which every single true enthusiast knows (and readily shares) some element of pub trivia, just as they do with the GT40’s height-name confluence or the fact that Enzo Ferrari waxed lyrical about the beauty of the E-type. With our cover stars it will probably be the fact that, in its home nation, you had to buy your Batmobile with the very thing that made it a Batmobile detached and in the boot. Or they might reel off the siren call names for the vibrant hues on the Porsche colour chart. That such should-be-obscurities are so widely known is as verifiable a sign of legendary status as I can think of.
Lee 911 Sibley → 1966 Porsche 912 Coupe 3 years ago
Nice look for this SWB version
Phil McNamara → 1963 Chevrolet Corvette C2 Resto-Mod 510bhp 3 years ago
Cool resto-mod car — like new era of tuning swap!
Chris Rees → 2022 BMW 430i Cabrio M Sport G23 3 years ago
Yes — but bi-turbo + intercooler and a lot of power
Keith Helfet → 2022 Maserati Ghibli Hybrid 3 years ago
Nece design — but very bad tech - I hope that I am right because Maserati doesn't underrate horsepower like Audi, BMW or Mercedes does. The Trofeo leans more middle-ground than high-ground, despite being marketed as the latter. That means its performance is more closely comparable to the Audi S6, BMW M550i, and Mercedes-AMG E53; although one could argue that in top speed it beats the RS6/M5/E63 type of cars
Graham Leigh → 2022 BMW M5 CS F90 UK-Spec 3 years ago
F90 new M5. Will be available from September. Despite it's AWD it's 15 kg lighter than the previous generation. Power is 600 PS at 5600-6700 rpm, torque is 750 Nm at 1800-5600 rpm. It gets the ZF's popular 8 speed automatic instead of BMW's own 7 speed dual-clutch automatic. It's ironic that «simple» automatic gearboxes have developed so much in the last few years that many sport cars uses them instead of dual-clutch automatics. BMW says the biggest improvement is the AWD system and the new gearbox, they make the biggest part of being faster than the previous generation, not the more powerful engine. Top speed is 305 kph, 0-100 kph: 3,4 s.
Alex Grant → Aston Martin V12 Speedster vs. Aston Martin Victor 3 years ago
Real all of this 2 sports cars are rare and cool — but performance — and real acceleration is no so good
Richard Meaden → 2022 BMW 430i Cabrio M Sport G23 3 years ago
Just 2.0-litre engine?
Jethro Bovingdon → 2022 Maserati F Tributo: inspired by Fangio 3 years ago
cool red
Stuart Gallagher → 2022 Maserati F Tributo: inspired by Fangio 3 years ago
Nice blue colour
Chris Rees → 2023 Alfa Romeo GTV - back as an EV in big line-up revamp 3 years ago
Design of this render is true epic
Jimbo Wallace → 1974 BMW 2002 tii E10 US-Spec Federal Bumpers - front 3 years ago
Nice look for so old car — colour like my E63 630i
Simon Jackson → Celebrating five decades of the 1971 BMW 2002tii E10 3 years ago
nice pre 3-Series compact BMW sports sedan
Votren De Este → Celebrating five decades of the 1971 BMW 2002tii E10 3 years ago
The 2002tii hits 50 this year, and it’s still looking fantastic, isn’t it?
Paul Guinness → 2023 Alfa Romeo GTV - back as an EV in big line-up revamp 3 years ago
You've gone made over there in Europe, and more so in UK. I'm so glad that I live in Australia, where we can buy diesel & petrol cars for the foreseeable future, in fact I'm thinking of updating my diesel Jeep to another diesel, perhaps a Mitsubishi Pajero (Shogun to you). Our government has fallen for the world's greatest hoax (that mankind is causing changes in the climate, when it has always changed, and we emit only 3% of all CO2), but we haven't gone to this electric car imbecility as yet. Except for the few who live close in to the city, and in a house, (you can't charge your car if you live in a flat) and never go very far, we need greatly longer ranges as you can drive in the outback here, and it can be an hour between towns, and so it could take 1/2 hour to charge tor EV every 300 or so km. To go between Sydney and Melbourne, (not the outback) about 850 km, you can drive it in a day with little trouble in a diesel/petrol can. In my Jeep I can do it without stopping. My tank is 78 litres, so at 8.5l/100km I need 72 litres. In an EV it would take 3 days — ridiculous!
Richard Gunn → 2022 BMW M8 Competition Coupe F92 engine S63 V8 4.4 litre 3 years ago
Very powerfull engine type from BMW
Votren De Este → 1976 Bentley Corniche Series IA Brooklands FHC 3 years ago
The real weight of this car 6,800 lbs? Jesus, this thing weighs more than our Expedition
Votren De Este → 2023 Alfa Romeo GTV - back as an EV in big line-up revamp 3 years ago
Accelerates like a bat out of hell. Its figures on paper do not do it justice!
Richard Gunn → 2023 Alfa Romeo GTV - back as an EV in big line-up revamp 3 years ago
Very sexy new design of Alfa-Romeo, cool design and nice but no engine too. Time when V6 «Busso» sound it's wonderful like a V8 go past...
Jason Dodd → 2022 BMW M4 Competition Coupé G82 3 years ago
cool album — good job Didi